老话题:学历重要还是工作经验重要?

2019-07-19 16:14
听一个朋友说,他们实验室的NUS Computer Science的PhD刚毕业的薪水,有2800,2900的, 也有3000多的,master从2500起;知道两个学化学的PhD,大概4000左右.
可能薪水低的是因为研究的东西对公司没用,所以不算工作经验了吧.看上去读4年书和工作4年的薪水差很多,本地明确要PhD的公司似乎很少

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2019-07-19 16:14

徐钧

phd没有那么低的
起薪都应该在4000左右。
如果太低的话只有两种可能:
1. 工作能力不行
2. 找工作能力不行

其中2的可能性比较大 :)

2019-07-19 16:14

滕腾宝

我也觉得phd的薪水没那么低
身边的人普遍都拿4K多的,看具体作甚么了。

2019-07-19 16:14

荀生融

似乎你的问题是
学历和工作经验哪个会赚的钱多些?

嗯,如果你认为自己需要主要依赖学历,那么你的学历便会成为你赚钱的阻碍,学历亦然。
不要依赖你的学历,不要依赖你的工作经验,那么依赖什么?NOTHING。你自己本身便是最厉害的顶尖武器,决没有其他因素可以匹敌。THEN你的金钱便会越来越多--如果你追求的是金钱的话。

跑题了?

OK,若上述原则比较难以落实,那么首先的一点是,在职业或者生活的过程中,尽量去做不可替代的事情。如果你的机构里一半以上有你的类似的技能,那么你便很无趣;若只有1/4,那么你可能有些机会;若只有1/10,那么你会被重视;若只有1/100,那么你会受到特别关注;若几乎没有人懂得你的技能,那么,你会很有趣。


2019-07-19 16:14

荀生融

更正
学历亦然->工作经验亦然

2019-07-19 16:14

冉辰钧

what you said is not correct.
Starting salary is determined by multiple reasons.
Better to analyse case by case.
Your statement is too narrow.
It sounds you are humiliating those with low starting salary due to particular reasons.
This is really not good.

2019-07-19 16:14

冉辰钧

two people's story I know
Share some stories with your guys.

One of my friends, whose Phd study was on 4G. As you know Singapore is going to do 3G, but 4G is still something unknown here. My friend could not find suitable job for 6 months in a row. He only got a short-term offer here with around $3000. But now he has got another welfared offer in USA, working on 4G. This story tells not every major can have the same chance, saying in Singapore.

Another friend, whose is also a PhD graduate. He is a truely tech genius and strong at social communication. He used to write a multimedia server system from scratch within 9 months. It can outperform nowadays commercial product. But he accepted a job with also around $3000, because he belives this job can give him long-term advantages and it is beneficial to his career life. This story tells starting salary may not the only stardard to judge a person's capability.

Anyway, good luck to all.

2019-07-19 16:14

徐钧

ok
同意你的观点,加入第三点.

如果太低的话:
1. 工作能力不行
2. 找工作能力不行
3. 特殊情况

其中2的可能性比较大 :)

2019-07-19 16:14

宇文敬腾

//尽量去做不可替代的事情
Of course that is important, but there is also risk that, if this 不可替代的事情 is something technical... you'll get stuck on your current position....

I've seen cases that one guy have performed so well in a certain role that people think he'd better stay at his current position...

I think broaden your skills across various functions of the organization is important as well.... Specialized is good to quickly move to middle level, but too specialized is a bottleneck to move further.

2019-07-19 16:14

荀生融

不要依赖你的学历,不要依赖你的工作经验(Z)
若你的技能已经成为你的阻碍,为什么还要守着不放?知识是死的,人是活的:)

但作为初入社会的小弟弟小妹妹,首先要掌握一技之长是必要的。如武林新手,从简单入手,从一门手艺入手。

大象不算小弟弟了吧,大约至少自己不认为算。:)


2019-07-19 16:14

杨秀

Agree.
Actually, few technical job are really 不可替代的事情.

For fresh starters doing a technical job, guess the best thing is to get exposure to various functions within organization.
Do a good job for the present role, always look out for opportunities that may lead to other roles.

For the cases you mentioned, I guess he/she has not really justify why he/she wants to move to another role.
The person should take initiative to convince manager that an opportunity for him/her to practise in other role benefit both the company and himself.
After all, being very good at something does not necessarily mean that he has true passion for it nor does it say he is willing to stay in that line for long.