是的。层主有见地
巩固本岛基本支持面, 制定中期可持续发展计划, 以防止马来西亚变天而得到增强的民粹主义思潮,在下次大选影响小坡。
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感觉评论里是不是有人没看国庆群众大会演说
都在讨论具体的措施而忽略制定措施的思路。这几项措施的总体基调就是HDB保值啊，至于具体什么措施，实施的时候怎么偏重，讨论这些太早了啦。
稍安勿躁
还有20年时间，可以慢慢出政策细节，相信政府是为老百姓做实事d
我看这个政策有点乱
你分析的很有道理。HIP2以后，政府还愿意回购？还给赔偿？自相矛盾啊。
既然已经HIP2了，就应该把房子使用完。
二轮维修与VERS不矛盾么？
HIP是谁出钱？政府还是屋主？
60-70年间要HIP，十年后就VERS，这个听着不太靠铺。
如果想要被政府收回，那就不会舍得还剩下十年到收回期还出钱维修（如果政府出钱另说）。。
如果出钱维修了，就不太会积极推进VERS，depreciation还要20年+才能接受呢。
对于喜欢炒房子的人们
这并不是一个好消息。
其实是明确告诉你：SERS以后基本没有了，VERS取而代之。
买老房子HDB博ENBLOC的可以慎重考虑下自己能等多久，VERS应该是等到政府说我考虑给你VERS名额的时候才可以投票（一个条件已经说清楚了：租屋满70年屋龄，但不是到了就会给），然后等到VERS的时候能不能大票数通过决议是很大的问题。通过不了那就是居民自己的问题了。不是我不给你机会哦。
Devil's in the details, but flat owners should not expect windfall from new
SINGAPORE — The housing initiatives announced at the National Day Rally — particularly the new Voluntary Early Redevelopment Scheme (Vers) — will go some way to reassure homeowners whose leases are running down, said some analysts interviewed by TODAY.
Nevertheless, the devil is in the details, and whether the scheme will provide a viable solution to the hotly-debated lease decay issue remains to be seen, they said.
With Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's speech, the Government has laid out a "visible" programme for Housing and Development Board (HDB) flat owners for the future of their homes, said CIMB economist Song Seng Wun, who added that public housing has been the backbone of Singapore's wealth creation.
Vers, which Mr Lee said would start about 20 years from now, will see residents of precincts that are about 70 years into their 99-year leases voting on whether they would like the Government to buy back the flats. The Government will compensate them — at terms less generous than the Selective Enbloc Redevelopment Scheme (Sers), which is compulsory — and help them get another flat to live in.
While Member of Parliament Alex Yam felt Vers would address some concerns of those living in older flats, Mr Lee Sze Teck, head of research at property firm Huttons Asia, felt it would not reduce the uncertainty homeowners face as the scheme is subject to lessees voting in favour of it.
The issue of HDB flat leases became a hot topic after a blog post by National Development Minister Lawrence Wong last year. He had cautioned that not all old flats will be eligible for Sers, and those not chosen will be returned to the state when the 99-year lease matures.
Analysts said the response to Vers will depend on details announced after policymakers have worked out how to select the precinct, pace the redevelopments out and the Government's specific terms of offer, among others.
"It boils down to how (Vers) will be implemented, and how much flat owners will be compensated. What is the threshold needed to secure approval for the scheme?" said ZACD Group executive director Nicholas Mak.
"Will compensation be enough to buy another flat to give the flat owner the same standard of living?"
Both Mr Song and Mr Yam felt current regulations on collective sales for the private sector could serve as a blueprint for Vers.
But HDB owners should not equate Vers with a collective sale of private property and hope for a windfall, said Mr Yam, who chairs the National Development government parliamentary committee.
"There are, I think, going to be a lot more conditions tied in with Vers… We didn't go through so many cooling measures to try to dampen the private en bloc market so Vers can take over," he said.
That Vers will start only in about 20 years means that "time is on our hands", said Mr Song.
"All the various stakeholders can basically give their view of how things may work or how they wish things can be done," he added.
Pricing of the flats will be the main sticking point, said Singapore University of Social Sciences' (SUSS) associate professor of economics Walter Theseira.
International Property Advisor chief executive Ku Swee Yong said Vers could have unintended effects on market sentiment.
Mr Ku said prospective sellers of older HDB flats whose leases are dwindling might start to ask for a higher selling price — now that some uncertainty has been addressed — and drive up resale prices as a result.
Mr Yam was also concerned that the acrimony among residents in some private en bloc attempts may spill over to public housing estates going through Vers.
VERS COULD PAY FOR ITSELF: ACADEMIC
Analysts are, however, not too worried about Vers' impact on state coffers.
Associate Professor Sing Tien Foo, who is the Director of the Institute of Real Estate Studies at the National University of Singapore (NUS) believes there will not be a large influx of HDB estates that agree to take up Vers at any one point in time.
The Government also generates revenue through redevelopment when it sells new units on a new 99-year lease, said Dr Theseira.
"The programme could well pay for itself if prices paid are not unreasonably high," he said.
Some flat owners felt relieved to get a better idea of what happens when their leases are near expiry, but a few continued to have doubts if they would still have a roof over their heads when the time comes.
Administrative assistant manager Angel Sui, 45, who lives in a 52-year-old flat on Circuit Road, said she would probably shelve her plans to relocate and wait to have a go at Vers. She only wishes for Vers to happen sooner.
Mr Low Mong Seng, 34, worried that the compensation under Vers may not allow flat owners to purchase a flat of a comparable size. This would be a problem for bigger households, said the swim coach, whose three-room flat in Block 95, Lorong 4 Toa Payoh, has less than 50 years left on its lease.
ADDITIONAL REPORTING BY LOUISA TANG
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/devils-details-flat-owners-should-not-expect-windfall-new-hdb-scheme-analysts
所以公寓就是用来投资的
完全可以住着hdb投资公寓，政府也是同意的呀，老百姓赚点小钱。真正有钱人当然可以无视政府的种种补贴咯
理论上有这样的可能性，但是
你可以想象一下这样的新加坡会是怎么样的。
所有的房子都是公家房子，没有私人房子。
所以对于新来新加坡工作或者学习的人，要么就是和房主一起住，要么就是住酒店，因为他们没有办法买组屋。
市面上完全没有可以自由出租的公寓，所有居民就一套房子。
这个地方一定没有任何活力，不会有人会来了，除了外劳。
实际上，这是不应该会发生的。私人公寓在活跃居住方式上对新加坡具有不可替代的左右。
假如政府不再续约土地了怎么办？
公寓老了，政府可是不管的。太老的99年的公寓不好买吧。太老了管线，设施都会有问题，估计租都不太容易。前20-30年还可以。
熊猫你能用得上这些好处吗？
我看用得上的人不多啊。
70年的房子，继承给孩子们恐怕他们都不会要，或者想办法兑现掉，以免妨碍自己去BTO新的。
组屋确实还是政府的，相比私人房子看似没有人管，但是什么时候集体出售决定权在业主。
还是灵活许多啊。
坡坡政府真的太棒了！
沙发坐好，等大家议论
oluntary Early Redevelopment Scheme (VERS)
胥筠
ABSD的问题
拥有组屋成本太高的，等于炒房成本提高了不少。